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FYI - Obviously this isn't primarily a discussion board and I've never done anything to discourage readers or commenter's from participating elsewhere. If anything, I encourage it, especially when it means actual information coming to everyone's attention. That's still my policy and won't change. Many former commenter's found Refuge. I think that's great. However some posters will not be welcomed back and nonsense here will will result in a prompt ban. I'd rather host 1 or 2 decent people, than any number of useless idiots I allowed to remain here too long in the first place.

Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 04:17 PM in Natalee Holloway Discussion Permalink

Comments

First.

I intend to be have.

Posted by: bucur Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 04:32 PM

Thanks, Dan. I love it when you're strict with us.

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 04:47 PM

I can hear cable news revving up......

Posted by: Caro Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 04:50 PM

Almost First!!!!

How has everyone been?

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 06:54 PM

ahhh..nice to be home...lol

Posted by: edward Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:00 PM

Thanks Dan!

There's lots of happening news. 2 maybe 3 brought in for questioning. I wonder if Dan has it up on the main page.

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:02 PM

Hello...I couldn't believe it when I saw the thread over at refugees...Hope everyone finds out Dan's open again.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:03 PM

You missed us!!! You really missed us!! LOL

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:04 PM

Home Sweet Home! :)

Posted by: SouthernBelle Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:05 PM

Thanks Dan!

Bigfish

Posted by: Bigfish Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:05 PM

YES....lol

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:05 PM


Is it safe?..anyway who all have been arrested and or detained


Posted by: knot Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:06 PM

Its on the front page Knot.. Guido Wever in Holland.. He worked at the Excelsior Casino..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:07 PM

LOL... everybodys afraid to talk/type

Posted by: SouthernBelle Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:07 PM

Its on the front page Knot.. Guido Wever in Holland.. He worked at the Excelsior Casino..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:07 PM

read that..but aren't there some others as well?

Posted by: knot Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:09 PM

H/T - I posted that note at Refugees after I read about Dan being back in business at the "Mary Casey Sprite !" site. Read it there first.

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:11 PM

Hi everyone. came across the artice on the front page via the net.
anyone heard anything new. Guess it will all be on the airwaves
tonight on Fox. The lineup I supose.

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:12 PM

Also Sander Gottenbos and his brother Koen..that's what they are saying at Refugees.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:14 PM

read that..but aren't there some others as well?

Posted by: knot Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:09 PM

Yes... Supposedly a Colombian with the same name as the gardner witness was arrested in Aruba and there was an additional arrest in Holland but i'm not sure about that. None of the additional arrests have been confirmed as far as I know.

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:14 PM

hello iwabwu, I have seen your posts over at refugees before while lurking.

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:15 PM

iwabwa, do you have a link for the site you mentioned. what did they say ?

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:17 PM

Thanks Dan .... No place like home
Hi Gel and Knot
Nice truck knot ....

Posted by: rusti Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:19 PM

It's great to be back home!!!

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:22 PM

Thanks Dan

Posted by: Bullgator Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:23 PM

Hi knot,wabbi,TO,& alloh if any of you change your nics,please let us others know...lol

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:24 PM

Also Sander Gottenbos and his brother Koen..that's what they are saying at Refugees.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:14 PM

They are all tennis players along with Guido...

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:24 PM

I saw that plhtx,about they all seem to have tennis in common,or most of them anyway.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:25 PM

Wow. Thanks Dan. Home sweet home.

Hi knot, wabbie, plhtx, rusti, wabbi and everyone!!

Going to check out the big news.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:26 PM

Hi GEL also. Just saw you. This forum is really much more comfortable than refs IMO.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:26 PM

Hey Vi
You guys/girls think Dan will put us a place to put pics up here...ok I won't press my luck.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:28 PM

LOL GEL. The pics and avs were cool werent they? I like things about refs and it was starting to feel comfortable. I love it here though.

So, can I ask who was arrested without getting screamed at? I've been out all day and no chance to catch up on news.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:33 PM

iwabwa, do you have a link for the site you mentioned. what did they say ?

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:17 PM


http://maryspritecasey.blogspot.com/2006_05_01_maryspritecasey_archive.html

http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/

http://reallycreepypeople.blogspot.com/

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:34 PM

Yeah...Vi,I feel the same way.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:35 PM

http://arubadirtypolice.blogspot.com/

Read what this says about ARLENE SHIPPER iwabwa.

Amazing !

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:37 PM

Hi ViVi....how did the game go?

Posted by: rusti Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:37 PM

For anyone new - Dan's main blog page

http://www.riehlworldview.com

There is a "Natalee Holloway" section available. If you scroll through the right column.

Perhaps other will offer their comments as well. RWV IMO has never been a support blog for any cause. It just reports news and some researched speculation. It can get rough in here, so you may need to grow a thick skin. JMHO

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:39 PM

Hi ViVi....how did the game go?

Posted by: rusti Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:37 PM


We won 8-5!!! Great game. This is the playoffs so we advance to the next round on Wednesday, playing the #1 team. It's so much fun.

Thanks for asking. :)

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:39 PM

Nothing comfirmed except Guido Wever,supposedly they are or have picked up the younger Gottenbos and his brother Koen..at least that's what I read at refs.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:39 PM

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:33 PM

I was but it wasn't anything serious just a little thing I had forgotten about

Posted by: knot Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:37 PM

Huh?

And Hi. Good to see you back over here.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:41 PM

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:37 PM

Highly opinionated. There are a lot of links at these pages. IMO the opposite opinions of many at Refugees and FOB. They've really evolved over time, from one pagers to multiple pages. If you're new to the case, they may be interesting to read from the early on. Refugees also has some archives. IMHO

There is also a WebSleuths http://www.websleuths.com/

Court Tv http://boards.courttv.com/

Scared Monkeys http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/

You'll notice some post at one or more forums under the same NIK or different NIKs. What I find interesting is the 'spin' related to each piece of news. If you read daily, you may see trends. JMHO

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:46 PM

iwabwu,
I have lurked here and at a lot of different places over time since this happened.
Some of them I find not so good. Some are nicer. Blogs for Natalee is a good one.

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:51 PM

BB Shortly. Seriously, it feels good to be here again. Didnt realize I missed it.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:56 PM

Dan's added a new message up top.

We hear you, Dan.

Posted by: Bullgator Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:59 PM

TempleOrange - yes, BFN is good and nice. I enjoy reading and posting a few things there. Good resources for looking up media and facts. I enjoy the posters with good knowledge of things - but some may be biased either way. MO

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:59 PM

Is he the son of Robert Wever, the leading Liberal politician on Aruba?

Posted by: CaptainJoe Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:59 PM

-thanks dan
i bailed out when the poo flew around here.

ok back in the day when this all started, wasnt this guy in the tennis tourny that freddy and joran were in?
wasnt there also talk about a party at the club?

Posted by: goodgirl. Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:02 PM

Thanks iwabwa

btw

I just heard on Fox that the new suspect is being held for
assisting with the battery, kidnapping and murder of
Natalee Holloway. Wonder who they assisted ? ??

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:02 PM

Dax wrote:
bah ....

I'm still in Reunion mode. Caused too much havoc to make RWV home again. I be Ref'n now
____________________________________________

Glad to see Dax is still a man of his word.

Posted by: Bullgator Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:05 PM

Is he the son of Robert Wever, the leading Liberal politician on Aruba?

Posted by: CaptainJoe Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:59 PM

That is what they are saying. Do you know anything about him?

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:05 PM

Wonder who's on Dan's short list?

Posted by: ( Dax ) Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:03 PM

It will probably be clear soon enough, and maybe we should steer clear of that topic. Just sayin. Glad you came by for a drive by post anyway.

Caution: Gator out of water! Joking Gator--you know I love ya.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:07 PM

Hi everyone! Thanks Dan!

Posted by: toothfairy Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:12 PM

Hello everyone, Are we finally going to get an ending to this sad saga...I hope so!

Posted by: Lexy Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:14 PM

http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/players/index.asp

Shows Guido Wever's Birth Date as 27/01/1987 a few months older than Joran.
To work at a Casino I'm assuming he would need to be 18. Guido could not have
been on the job too long prior to Natalee's disappearance.

Posted by: rusti Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:22 PM


The fellow who has been arrested in Holland may fight extradition..why? if has nothing to hide

Posted by: knot Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:23 PM

maybe we should steer clear of that topic

I'd strongly suggest people do and remain reasonably on topic. There are plenty of places for friendly banter. I'm already beginning to block comments and will do so when people start playing games here, or across different boards.

Posted by: Dan Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:25 PM

Hopefully Maria will make her way back over and give us info from Aruba.. She was posting at refugees.

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:30 PM

I found these two links on the net for this guy. Seems he is indeed a tennis player.

http://www.racquettech.com/birthdays/1-27.html


http://www.itftennis.com/juniors/players/player.asp?player=100045600



Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:30 PM


Does anyone know how long it takes to extradite someone from Holland to Aruba and why would anyone feel it necessary to do so if the same laws apply to each country

Posted by: knot Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:30 PM

http://www.riehlworldview.com/test_blog/2006/05/1.html#comments

Here's a link if anyone wants to see how much refugees liked us RWVers...lol

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:38 PM

DARN...Here' the right link

http://www.refugeesunleashed.net/viewforum.php?f=8

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:40 PM

Thanks Dan!

Hi Bigfish and everyone. I was listening to the radio at my daughter's home on very low and just happened to pick up on "Aruba and Holloway" I couldn't believe my ears. Its been so quiet and now all of a sudden. Hope this isn't just a wild goose chase again.

Nice to see everyone again! Moey

Posted by: moey Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:43 PM

All on the ITF list

WEVER, Guido Aruba 27/01/1987
GOTTENBOS, Keon Aruba 12/12/1988
VAN DER SLOOT, Joran Aruba 08/06/1987

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:48 PM

Thanks iwabwa

btw

I just heard on Fox that the new suspect is being held for
assisting with the battery, kidnapping and murder of
Natalee Holloway. Wonder who they assisted ? ??

Posted by: TempleOrange Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:02 PM

Good question. I've always wondered why the beach story made Joran the last one with Natalee. Why not a story that 3 dropped her off at the beach? Would there have been more or less witnesses? I don't think so, but there would be three under suspicion. Perhaps the real 'conspiracy' in this case is the relationship between all these suspect families. JMHO

How were they involved? Were the rumors of JvdS and his involvement a cover for the involvement of many more? Perhaps he was singled out because he was seen with Natalee and 2K in the car? He was the one interacting with her in C&C? His father may truly have been low person on the political totem pole in Aruba? JMHO

There is also the possibility that many in ALE truly did not know what happened to the evidence, if it existed at some point and just disappeared. If these latest are involved, it must have been a strange year in Aruba for many. JMHO

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:49 PM

Hello, Everyone. Why is Sander Gottenbos name being tossed around? Has he been questioned?

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:51 PM

Thansk Carry... Any additional info?

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:51 PM

All on the ITF list

WEVER, Guido Aruba 27/01/1987
GOTTENBOS, Keon Aruba 12/12/1988
VAN DER SLOOT, Joran Aruba 08/06/1987

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:48 PM

Sander Gottenbos is also a tennis player. The tennis community seems to be a close knit community

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:53 PM

OK I will bite.. what is ITF?

Posted by: SouthernBelle Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:53 PM

oops... shoulda waited

Posted by: SouthernBelle Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:53 PM

Yeah..maybe whatever happened to NH happened at the Raquet Club?I wonder if ALE did a search there early on?

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:54 PM

Here's another tournament, where Sander and Guido are both listed.

http://www.juniortennis.com/ajt/tournamentinfo.php?t_id=3445

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:55 PM

ITF is the International Tennis Federation

Posted by: rusti Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:56 PM

my mistake...I don't see Sander listed at this tournament..

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:57 PM

Now I'm wondering since these recent arrests if the blue cloth that looks like abody in it has something to do with them?It's a scux.com

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:57 PM

sorry my typing sucks...scrux.com

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:58 PM

Gargoyle talks NH now on fox

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:00 PM

plhtx

looks like we're gonna have to make our kids come home...lol

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:00 PM

Guido charged last Wed, questioned every day sinceasys his att

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:02 PM

Wever's att. proclaims innocense.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:03 PM

Well, anyone brought in for questioning this month has had almost a year to prepare. I wonder if they've had advance warning of the arrest? ;)

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:04 PM

Big deal att, big deal Daddy whisks Guido out of Dodge, makes you wonder. Jorans att seems to be defending Guido

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:08 PM

Who does not seem to be involved here? Where are the unbiased judges in this?

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:09 PM

Joe T. just told Kimberly not to be like in with the family that drinks koolaid...

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:09 PM

Well I wonder how they know NH was badly beaten without a body??

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:11 PM

Well I wonder how they know NH was badly beaten without a body??
Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:11 PM

Makes me wonder if someone is talking

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:13 PM

Guido working night NH went missing

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:14 PM

Why are they now saying that she WAS killed?

Posted by: Phantom Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:15 PM

anyone heard anything from the Kalpoes lately

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:16 PM

I thought someone mentioned earlier that the new guy was being held for murder and serious bodily assault or something like that. Yes?

Apologies if y'all have covered it already.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:16 PM

Well I wonder how they know NH was badly beaten without a body??
Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:11 PM

Remember J2K making such a point of NH falling down and (was it) hitting her head?

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:18 PM

Beth just on Fox...said she got a call from a family who went to International School and Joran had scratches on him. She got the call about 3 days after Nat's disappearance. Haven't heard this

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:20 PM

Yes I do Carry...what gives?I would like to know if they think Natalee's alive?I just heard Kimberly mention the $250,000.oo reward again.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:20 PM

Hi everyone. Missed you all. Glad to be back.

Posted by: bella Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:21 PM

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:20 PM

Of course. Everytime theres a new witness or suspect she always has some "little tidbit" about Joran. Anything to put the focus back on him.

Posted by: SouthernBelle Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:22 PM

Yes I do Carry...what gives?I would like to know if they think Natalee's alive?I just heard Kimberly mention the $250,000.oo reward again.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:20 PM

The 250,000 is for information that would lead to Nat's whereabouts....If she is found alive, it's 1,000,000

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:23 PM

Hi Bella

Haven't heard Beth say she'd got a call,but remember the dicussions about JVDS supposedly had bruise after NH disappeared.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:23 PM

you are right, GEL. There was much discussion yea and nay, but do we know for sure if he was bruised?

Posted by: bella Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:24 PM

Who is the judge in Aruba working this case now? Is it someone new? Does anyone know? Perhaps the investigators from the Netherlands have convinced some people to talk?

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:24 PM

plhtx..don't know about the million dollars,hadn't heard it n a long time?

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:24 PM

No Bella..I'm not sure of anything at this point...still confusing.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:25 PM

What did Joe say? Was he on tv?

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:26 PM

Guido left Aruba two days after buying a new car.

Posted by: Phantom Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:27 PM

Posted by: Phantom Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:27 PM

He drove his new car to Holland? lol

Posted by: SouthernBelle Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:27 PM

Posted by: SouthernBelle Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:27 PM

He left the car on Aruba.

Posted by: Phantom Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:28 PM

I did not see Beth on TV today or yesterday for that matter. But I did catch her and Dave during the week, and Beth's voice and expression were actually low-key and very reasonable. Had she come across like that from the beginning, things could have possibly gone smoother for her.

Posted by: bella Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:28 PM

What did Joe say? Was he on tv?

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:26 PM
~~~~

Didn't catch all of it.I did hear him saying something to Kimberly about the koolaid.Do you think they are reading the sites now?..lol

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:29 PM

Guido left Aruba two days after buying a new car.
Posted by: Phantom Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:27 PM

Fast getaway for a kid with new car just waiting for him

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:29 PM

Didn't catch all of it.I did hear him saying something to Kimberly about the koolaid.Do you think they are reading the sites now?..lol

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:29 PM

I think they are reading the sites. I was wondering if he was going to comment on the relationship between Joran and Guido..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:30 PM

I didn't catch all of it 26...sorry

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:31 PM

Didn't catch all of it.I did hear him saying something to Kimberly about the koolaid.Do you think they are reading the sites now?..lol
Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:29 PM

He was poo pooing the quilt of Guido. could his guilt possably work against Joran?

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:31 PM

I think they are reading the sites. I was wondering if he was going to comment on the relationship between Joran and Guido..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:30 PM

Guido is who Joran was playing tennis with on Mon. afternoon.

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:32 PM

These are times when I wish Pearl was back here.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:32 PM

These are times when I wish Pearl was back here.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:32 PM

Yes...she could type as fast as they spoke on tv

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:33 PM

possibly

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:34 PM

Guido is who Joran was playing tennis with on Mon. afternoon.

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:32 PM
~~~~

Sounded like a replay of what Melody(JVDS old girlfriend)told us here on one of the old chats,didn't it?

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:34 PM

He leaves Aruba two days after buying a new car and he leaves Aruba two days after NH disappears.

Wonder where that car is right now?

Posted by: Phantom Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:35 PM

Yes, Gel...I remember her saying that...

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:37 PM

phantom
probably somewhere in Holland,eh?

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:38 PM

He leaves Aruba two days after buying a new car and he leaves Aruba two days after NH disappears.

I thought he left 14 days after NH vanashed

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:38 PM

Guido is who Joran was playing tennis with on Mon. afternoon.

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:32 PM

Who said that? It was originally said to of been Freddie..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:38 PM


Well I've asked this several times..I understand the lawyer for guido wever will fight extradition..why if he doesn't have anything to hide..and why extradite when they have the same laws governing both countries

Posted by: knot Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:39 PM

There was a rumor at Refugees that the 'funds' are empty, I wonder if someone did put in for the 1 million? Anyone know?

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:40 PM

Who said that? It was originally said to of been Freddie..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:38 PM
That was just said on Fox when Joe was on. I can't remember who said it. I do know that Joe got mad when Kimberly called it an alibi. Joe said Joran did not need an alibi the next day

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:41 PM

Sounded like a replay of what Melody(JVDS old girlfriend)told us here on one of the old chats,didn't it?

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:34 PM

Maybe he was the overnight guest then. IIRC Melody said the tennis buddy was the same one who spent the night with Joran the night Nat went missing...but it's foggy at best.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:41 PM

Remember J2K making such a point of NH falling down and (was it) hitting her head?

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:18 PM

Yes! I commented, along with several others, way back when that that detail was out of place and extraneous to what was needed for the fake alibi.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:43 PM

26
Also Guidon's att. told that story about them playing tennis at the begining of Line-up

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:44 PM

There was a rumor at Refugees that the 'funds' are empty, I wonder if someone did put in for the 1 million? Anyone know?


Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:40 PM

All I know is that the 1,000,000 is for the safe return of Nat

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:44 PM

That was just said on Fox when Joe was on. I can't remember who said it. I do know that Joe got mad when Kimberly called it an alibi. Joe said Joran did not need an alibi the next day

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:41 PM

Thanks plhtx.. I'm watching Sopranos sorry to be a pain..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:44 PM

I had to go bowling with granddaughter and rested then got on and read we were back. Thank you so much Dan, this is the best place to be and I sure missed it. Hello all, I was a lurker since last June who posted once ever three months but it sure is good to be back. Now let's have a good time and go forward with this case.

Posted by: TnLady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:46 PM

Thanks plhtx.. I'm watching Sopranos sorry to be a pain..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:44 PM
No, problem. Glad to help...Wish Pearl was around to transcribe everything for us.

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:46 PM

Wabbi...I keep thinking NH is alive somewhere.Maybe not in good health though.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:48 PM

No, problem. Glad to help...Wish Pearl was around to transcribe everything for us.

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:46 PM

She was posting on the front page hopefully she'll venture in..

Posted by: 26ANDCOUNTING Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:49 PM

Wabbi...I keep thinking NH is alive somewhere.Maybe not in good health though.Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May

Notice they are charging murder and battery and not just involved in the disappearance of NH

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:52 PM

Hi TnLady
glad you're back too.Join in posting..no one can be slwer than I am.We need your help.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:52 PM

They either have a talker or they have some evidence of which we are unaware

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:53 PM

Orrr...make as many mistakes as I do...lol

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:53 PM

There was a video on Aol and it said this suspect was a friend of Joran's. Have any of you heard anything about this?

Posted by: TnLady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:58 PM

All I know is that the 1,000,000 is for the safe return of Nat

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:44 PM

What if one or more put in for the $250,000? How many $250,000 portions would be available? Is there a contingency for more than four? I don't know how that works. Would it 'snow ball' if one put in and was paid. Would others say "Wow" I'll put in too. Would JoeM put up more money for the $250,000? JMHO

Posted by: iwabwu Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:59 PM

There was a video on Aol and it said this suspect was a friend of Joran's. Have any of you heard anything about this?

Posted by: TnLady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:58 PM
We know they play tennis together. FWIW Jossy said they go to the casinos together. So it's anyone's guess

Posted by: plhtx Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:59 PM

Kimberly from Fox is getting married next weekend

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:00 PM

They either have a talker or they have some evidence of which we are unaware

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:53 PM

I would place a bet that someone is or has talked already....where's Hercule Poirot when you need him!

Posted by: Lexy Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:01 PM

There was a video on Aol and it said this suspect was a friend of Joran's. Have any of you heard anything about this?

Posted by: TnLady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:58 PM

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I have a feeling that all these guys that have been arrested knew each other.For how long I do not know.

Posted by: greeneyedlady Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:03 PM

Notice they are charging murder and battery and not just involved in the disappearance of NH

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:52 PM

CN... The words seem so much stronger this time around, no messing around

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196363,00.html
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"Gerard Sponge said his client, whose name was not disclosed, was suspected of "assisting in the murder" of the Alabama high school senior.

The charge is the most severe "in our criminal code," Sponge said on the Netherlands national television broadcaster, NOS."
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Posted by: rusti Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:06 PM

Thanks Dan!

Hi Bigfish and everyone. I was listening to the radio at my daughter's home on very low and just happened to pick up on "Aruba and Holloway" I couldn't believe my ears. Its been so quiet and now all of a sudden. Hope this isn't just a wild goose chase again.

Nice to see everyone again! Moey

Posted by: moey Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 08:43 PM
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Hi moey! Good to see you. :)

Bigfish

Posted by: Bigfish Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:08 PM

I think this is so important: J2K said when they returned NH to the hotel (lie) she fell and injured herself. You don't add to a lie (unless you're crazy) because it will come back to bite you. They either saw, participated in, or wewe told of NH being beaten

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:10 PM

BB Shortly. Seriously, it feels good to be here again. Didnt realize I missed it.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:56 PM

I did.

Posted by: Honey Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:19 PM

Notice they are charging murder and battery and not just involved in the disappearance of NH

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:52 PM

The 'heavy battery' part is new. They must be going on a specific tip.

Posted by: Honey Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:21 PM

Someone in Wever famuly owns a crematorium on Aruba. Hmmmmmm. No body-No case. Hmmmmmm
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:3hX62nHNSvQJ:www.cyberdistrict.net/
eddy
/1787.htm+wever+crematorium+aruba&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&ie=UTF-8

Posted by: CaptainJoe Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:22 PM

BB Shortly. Seriously, it feels good to be here again. Didnt realize I missed it.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 07:56 PM

I did.

Posted by: Honey Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:19 PM

Hi.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:27 PM

Notice they are charging murder and battery and not just involved in the disappearance of NH

Posted by: CARRY NATION Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 09:52 PM

The 'heavy battery' part is new. They must be going on a specific tip.

Posted by: Honey Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:21 PM

This sounds more specific than arrests past. They may fool around and solve this thing yet. Hope so.

Posted by: ViVi Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:29 PM

Hi everyone: I'm wondering if GVC may have given them info. Apparently they were investigating Wever in the beginning. Could have given them more leads to follow?????

Posted by: Linda in L.A. Sunday, May 21, 2006 at 10:32 PM