Paulus Van der Sloot knows what happened to Natalee Holloway~

Paulus Van der Sloot knows what happened to Natalee Holloway~and..so do the 3 boys.
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This is an interesting post I brought over from Bushyhairedstanger. Be sure to read the whole thing.

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thebutlerdidit09-21-2006, 11:06 AM
That's not Paulus at the table. I don't know who it is, but it most definitely is not Joran's father. I think it's Bob Plummer, who admitted in one of his interviews to having last seen Natalee in the casino.

Huh?

There is no indication Joran had been at the HI that week or that any of the students had met him. They met GVC, not Joran.
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Her friends deserted her, but not to go to any party, but rather to a couple of other bars in the area. This is why none of them seem to have seen her leave w/Joran except for Kissel and Jordan, who were not particularly close friends w/her.

This is an excellent point, and certainly fits many other scenarios where teens (and college students) are drinking too much and someone dies. There is no reason to assume that Natalee would have gone directly to her room at the HI if she returned to the hotel. Especially if everyone else was in a different room. If Natalle was calling people on her cellphone, she might have know where the party was, and gone *there* rather than to her own room.

Beth really made a point of this even though it makes no sense at all. Beth does not understand Dutch, and was not within hearing distance. She would have had no idea what Paulus was telling the police. Someone else translated that to her, and whoever that was either lied or Beth lied about what she was being told. Paulus picked Joran up around 11pm. This has never been disputed except by Flying Assmonkeys and their ilk.

The maid, to me, is a fascinating point. First of all, if Natalee's room had been "re-rented" (for no discernible sane reason that I can see) then the maid would not have necessarily made up that room. Next, we know that AJ Ward got his 'nads in a binder for talking to some maid. We also know Beth claims to have spoken to a maid at the highly improbably time of midnight, when no maid would be at that hotel.

There's clearly something about the maid responsible for Natalee's room that is problematic. Most likely because that maid would have cleaned Natalee's room the previous day--and would remember her blue suitcase being there.

The only thing Paulus knows is that his big-mouthed son talked himself into a 3-month prison stay because he can't seem to tell a coherent story about that night. Beyond that, unless Joran confessed to him, he knows doodly. Remember, Paulus is officially cleared. Joran is not. If PVDS buddies are so powerful, why can't they get his son off the suspect list?

The maid I was talking about was the one for the VDS house, not the hotel. Just wanted to clarify that.

Other point/counterpoints....

You can say that was not PVDS at the casino table. I say it is.

You can say PVDS never said the 4AM ditty. I say he did.

PVDS was cleared of the original suspect charges....that doesn't mean he won't be charged again with something more appropriate....like manslaughter.

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So like, I know this guy who is an A college student. Really smart blah blah but sheltered ....all he does in his free time is binge drink! And he's proud within the group to throw back anything anyone mixes for him until he pukes his guts out and has to be taken home. He's not the only one doing it, natch. The whole group does it when they get together and they all think it's great joyous fun. The next morning after these drinking gatherings, this kid remarks how much fun he had the night before! Then he admits he can't remember the second half of the night. This, unfortunately, seems to be a way of life for many youth these days....well, ok to be honest it's always been a way of life for newly free youth. My point is what we all know.....most likely no one remembers what went on that night Natalee disappeared. Not even Joran. SO.....I try to base my case solving speculation on factors other than what a bunch of drunk/face saving teens can or want to admit to, taking what they say and seeing how it meshes with real possibilities.

And here are some real possibilities:

Someone got rid of Natalee in a way they were sure she would not be found.

PVDS knew this, hence he was able to put the boys minds to rest about it.

The only reason for getting rid of her had to have been to hide some other crime because a dead body lying around would be passed off as the person's own fault otherwise.

Because her body was not put somewhere she could be found so her family could tend to her remains, she was disappeared by someone with no emotional attachment to her.

There has been no evidence that after leaving CC's Natalee was anywhere except in the Kalpoe car....

...however, the VDS house was not searched properly which opens doors of wonder and that's their own fault for not being interested in proving there was no need to look in that direction so this case could move in a different direction.....

.....and since Natalee is clearly NOT still in the Kalpoe car, and the VDS house was not searched properly.....my guess is the evidence of any crime or involvment in one or even some accident (albeit while some unlawful activitiy was taking place otherwise there'd be no need to run from it) is at the VDS house....or was there.

Now since the world is told that Natalee went willingly into the Kalpoe car and there is no voice of Natalee to dispell that claim we have only motivations of Joran and 2K to consider as to why they took her with them. We assume it was to have sex with her either for just Joran or others. Joran says that's what he was after and he clearly pushes that agenda. Given that Natalee didn't make it back after Joran's intended sexcapade then for Joran to push that he wanted to have sex with her....he and only he....imo is a deliberate ruse to hide a gang rape or something else. In other words, Joran did NOT take Natalee so just HE could have sex with her.

Once you get on that train of thought, then it's easy to understand how Natalee ended up gone.....

however, the three, J2K had no visible marks on them from Natalee defending against a rape so even if they'd all partook against her will there'd be no proof she wasn't complaint had she remained alive.
Drugs in her system? That is easily passed off as voluntary. Even a date rape drug could be voluntary as some use it on purpose to get that wild loving feeling.

So what's the point in Natalee being missing? If anything and everything could have just as easily been voluntary as not, then why is she missing? My opinion follows....

She's missing because the death occured after the VDS's said they didn't know where she was....and that was when she was at the VDS house....they were hoping she'd be ok and would turn up later. It didn't happen. There's your crime!

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Bless you Natalee always !